We discuss and analyze the game's story, ending and add in our thoughts and theories on what the sequels will be about.
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We are ignoring the most important part about Tyr, he is the God of War. Wtf have we been playing all these years? Kratos is the GOW, Kratos is Tyr. First person to travel realm to realm, Kratos will turn into Tyr in the future of GOW. Why did the World Serpent recognize Atreus? Time travel. Did I just blow your mind.
Tbh personally I think the best twist into a sequel would be the one mentioned at the end of this video along with time travel.
Not only because of the amazing story, but imagine traveling back to previous GOW places now with this graphics and development, and that twist being that Kratos, as he finds out that he is going to be betrayed by Atreus/Loki (as GOW seires emphasizes a lot in betrayal, there's also a mission in game where tells that a son stabbed his father in the back and you retrieve his dagger, and Kratos begins to feel really worried in that time) Kratos would travel to the past to bring an army to fight the Ragnarok and fight Odin & Thor. That would ALSO explain why THOR comes to Kratos at the end of the game, maybe he traveled back to stop what Kratos is about to do... But hey there's Loki there so maybe he would stop THOR and eventually LOKI could become arrogant and the betrayal may ocurr and Kratos wouldn't do anything because he knows that is meant to happen, and the fact that he did the same to Zeus & Kronos. And finally that could explain why TYR went back for Kratos, because in his current time he failed so as Loki, and eveything (that would also explain why the Serpent eats THOR statue very agressively, because ODIN and him won ) so TYR knows that only Loki's father would help him to encourage his true powers enough to maybe stop Odin & Thor... And if TYR could be a future Kratos, then maybe he just went back to make the things right with his son and re-write the story of what he might be living... and he chosed the time where Loki's mother was recently dead because she fought back with the Giants to stop what would eventually turn into the Ragnarok, ( the same that Kratos did in his realm, fight back to the Gods) but Kratos won, Loki's mother didn't... That's why TYR brought him to Midgard, smartly at the right time, also to stop Baldur who would be the only one that might stop Kratos or Tyr himself if Tyr is future Kratos... That is still a very hidden myth... Also the fact that Fay may bring vengeance to them and you would face her... Ok i'll just stop.. and tbh for longevity terms, this would be by FAR the best way to bring a sequel to this amazing story.
In the game Mimir says Frig is Freya and Freya is Frig. Odin changed her name so that all of her glory would go to Frig as being a different god but they were actually the same god. Also Oddin is not a Vanir he is Aesir. Frigg/Freya in mythology are both portrayed as being Vanir and married to Oddin. Also to back up them being the same is that although Frigg had such a high rank in the Aesir god's there are very sparse accounts of her in the mythos. So this would be why the game has chosen for them to be the same person.
You will missed maybe... Mimir says "Freya visited me and she is looking to own wings for fight." I thing Freya accept any sacrifice for own revenge. Freya makes target Kratos and Thor or Odin kills Kratos. Atreus will see own father dead and saves Wolfs for ragnarok. After Kratos really dead, Atreus will fuck up gods and all realms with ragnarok for revenge.
Theory 2 - Atreus makes time travel for revenge. As him loki, fight with own snake child odin and thor. On last scene, kratos died and atreus crying or yelling or something idk. But i know this... On the wall, he walking with 3 wolfs. So maybe this is come rangarok after Atreus saving wolfs.
Theory 3 - Feya dont tell truth. Magni and Modi tells Atreus "you will be our new brother after kill him (kratos)"... This is so weird but why she dont tell real name of laufey? Its seems to be (maybe) before time travel, loki is exist but kratos dont know about loki's real life. But laufey(feya) did...
Interesting thing about time travel in this game and future games. I've got a theory that adult Loki travels back in time to god of war 4...
When atreus almost dies and kratos takes him to freya, at one point nearing freyas house you hear that somebody summoned the world serpent, you hear the horn, only no mention is ever made of this again, we never find out who summoned the snake...
I theorize that adult Loki, knowing he was unconscious and sick as a child, used this opportunity to talk to the snake.
This could create a back to the future moment in the next game where theres some reason we need to time travel back to the GOW4 timeline and need to avoid bumping into our younger selves...
Loki's symbol is 2 snakes biting each others tail also so in the future when he gives birth to the world serpent there will be 2 (the one from the future who was sent back in time and the one from now )
And because atreus' quiver is broken, he shouldn't be able to help Kratos in the final fight against Baldur, at least he should be shooting much slower for his quiver rope isn't in the best shape. A missed detail indeed.
there is only two thing that realy realy realy bothered the fuck of me: 1 why this god of war 4 didn't begun after the end credit scene of god of war 3???????? and 2: how the hell is kratos is still alive who revived him and how did he get to norse myth????????? thats the only thing that i have problem with. please answer ....
Atreus will never kill Kratos, the entire game is about breaking the cycle. Not to mention Kratos is a huge draw. ALSO if Atreus becomes more Greek-ish like his father then there can be too many one-liners to pass up.
"You may be able to wrestle the world serpent to a stand still, but what about a Spartan?"
"Loki, how could you do this?"
"The name is Atreus."
You know the aesir and Vanir were different sets of gods yeah? The aesir were the gods of the heavens while the Vanir where more like druids gods of the earth. They all originated from the same giant the name slips my mind but Odin and his 2 brothers murdered him and created the 9 realms from his corpse. Fun fact apparently the dwarves of svartelhiem grew from the maggots that feasted on this giants corpse. No joke. It's funny how odin and his brothers killed there maker just like zues, Hades and posiedon did the same to cronos and the other titans. Lots of similarities between Norse and greek mythology.
You forget that their are more giants, yes all of them in the land of the giants have passed, but remember, come Ragnorak Sutr will, the original fire giant, and other fire giants, come to destroy the Aesir home Asgard. Tho we don't know if there are more fire giants besides Sutr, it is said by mimir when we travel to Musphelheim that their are more than just Sutr.
Betraying his dad is likely but purposefully doing so I dont think so. But maybe accidentally is messing with his arrow selection and has those dangerous green arrows and maybe miss fires and hits Kratos when they are tag teaming per-say Thor?
Great vid. You missed the piece of dialog where atraus asked mammir what the world serpent said before agreeing kratos and atraus explore his belly for mammirs eye. Mammir translates and said the bout looked familiar and explains how he is from the future.
I could see it playing out as Loki and Atreus living in the same body. Maybe not as literal as it sounds but we had a glimpse of what I believe Loki to be already. When Atreus finds out he is a God we see his personality completely flip and become disobedient, spontaneous and most of all a complete lack of concern or well being for his father. These are all traits which are used to describe Loki in Norse mythology. We then see him snap out of it and wonder what happened, this is him turning back to Atreus again. My theory is throughout the next games his Loki persona will corrupt him more and more till eventually Atreus is no longer. This could back up what this video was saying about Atreus killing Kratos, as when Atreus was in his Loki persona we seen he didn't hesitate to shoot an arrow at Kratos injuring him. Possibly Odin is talking to him in his head, manipulating him right under Kratos' nose?
Boy saw thor come to there home meaning if I'm right he WILL KILL the god of war and adopt Boy/Loki and bring him to Asgard to become his brother Loki the trickster but its a little confusing since Loki's real dad was killed by Odin and his dad was a giant and Odin adopted Loki and he was a baby when he was adopted and him and thor consider themselves blood brothers but in the god of war story he will have to get used to it and he saw Thor when in Norse mythology Odin killed his dad, so what I think will happen if they release a new game The god of war will die fighting Thor and boy will run off and change his name to Loki and later be found by Odin or thor be adopted and die in Ragnarok since in Norse mythology he dies during it and so does Thor fighting the sea serpent but sadly the sea serpent dies and well-fighting thor sad time's.
I think Atreus represents the player because in the beginning he is clueless just like the player. he has a bunch of questions and so does the player. And at the end kratos trusts atreus to decide where to go and if atreus represents the player then the player goes where they want
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If you think about it, Kratos is changing fate again. Maybe the prophecy says that Kratos is Farbauti...sure..but what if that is the red herring/or mistake in the giants visions. What if Kratos is Surtur? Blades of chaos being flame elemental, maybe the destruction of Asgard comes through the Blades of Chaos. A bringing of Ragnarok through a different timeline but still the same ending of "Burning" The strength of The blades is portrayed as even to burn throughout helhiem. Im pretty sure Odin or we didnt see that one coming. IF it happened that way , it would most likely be a "GOD OF WAR" Type of Story. Correct me if im wrong.
First, I'm sorry but you need to stop saying Loki like "low-key". Pronunciation is closer to "lock-e". Second and more importantly I don't believe Atreus will ever be like Loki is known to be in North mythology. I think we already saw a similarity in his reaction after learning he was a God and thinking he had a right to kill. Kratos taught him to be better. And by learning that he was also part-giant, I don't believe he will ever be on Odin's side knowing that his mother dedicated her life to protects the Giants from him. More than Kratos he would betray his mother by joining Odin. Of course the Allfather could kidnap him (is that why Thor'll come knocking to the door ?), bringing Kratos on a new path to get him back. I tend to believe that the next game will be about fate and destiny. This one is, from my point of view, about education, the weight of knowledge, secrets and the discovery of yourself. It was the introduction to Kratos as a single-father life, the discovery of loss and legacy for Atreus. And for the players it was an introduction to all that as much as to North Mythology (Mimir being a great centerpoint to all that, friend to Kratos, teacher to Atreus and guide for the player). So as we have seen Atreus should have been called Loki. But he's not. And that's what the next game will probably be about. How to counter fate ? Is Atreus really like Loki was supposed to be ? Or is he already on a different path ? Faye knew about the prophecy and set her path accordingly. But Atreus doesn't know about the end. And Kratos won't do anything to prevent his own death from happening. So it will land on Atreus shoulders to choose between fate and destiny. Of course Atreus could cause Ragnarok and Kratos accidental death. But God of War created a counterpoint to the usual North Mythology based on the Gods perspective where Ragnarok is a bad thing. So if it's a problem for the Gods, couldn't it be a good thing for Kratos, Atreus and mankind or giant-kind ?