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PUBG has all of them already in pubg a suppressor reduced recoil but one thing I've noticed that the speed of the bullet reduces and mostly when you us M416 it feels that the rate of fire reduces when you use a suppressor..... That is what I feel.... You can tell me if I'm wrong........ If u agree like the comment
In Cs no bullet drop so that's out of the picture... Silenced weapon has an easier recoil to control.... Damage is the same but then... The silenced m4 has lesser rpm... Which according to your explanation would be incorrect this is done... To keep things balanced
So many things about this video that are plain wrong.
Not all suppressors have springs, of all the suppressors I own and have seen, yours is the exception, rather than the rule.
SUBSONIC AMMO - Suppressors will not Suppress the supersonic crack of high velocity ammunition - it's fair to say that the game developers know this, and in order to make the guns extra quiet in game, compensate by using subsonic ammo - this perfectly logical approach would then reduce damage over high velocity ammo and also make the bullets drop much quicker, which is what we see in game.
You talk about physics, but I don't think you quite understand it yourself. Down Vote.
Compare it to the oil filter theory, i ran across these videos through youtube advertising on the home page. And it is indeed intresting that companies charge 2-3 thousand for suppressors when an inexpensive 20$ oil filter dampens the sound much greater. Its the equation of going to school to get a college degree that puts you in the income range of 2-3 thousand a month compared to a high school grad novice working at the steel mill and making 4-5 thousand a month. Something isnt right.
They've very expensive. Like the price of your gun to many times the price of your gun expensive. They make your gun longer, require more maintenance, they can melt, they throw off the balance of your gun, they make your gun heavier, they can throw gas back in your face, a lot of things. Generally though if you can afford a quality suppressor then it'll be a massive advantage over a standard muzzle device.
I've got a few issues with this as they are more technicalities. I would assume the loss in range in a game like battlefield/cod could be attributed to why it is also super quiet, subsonic ammo will have massive changes in range and more bullet drop because of it, in reality subsonic ammo being fired through certain suppressors can also be as quiet as 80-90 Db, for example, the Energetic Armament VOX. With this fact we'll just assume that in the games you are shooting subsonic ammo through a suppressed gun so that you can get the super quiet shots, which would also attribute to damage on the other end of the muzzle because of the energy change. Also, originally the inventor of the silencer, did indeed call them silencers in his patent, therefore it is technically a silencer. But suppressor is acceptable too. :)
This video does not mention that suppressors are commonly paired with sub sonic ammunition. In order to have the fullest sound benefit on a suppressor, ammunition that is fired slower than the speed of sound is often used because it does not create a sonic boom. If slower ammunition is used then it would cause bullets to drop more noticeably over distance, as bullet drop is always the same over time, 9.8m/s squared, if it takes longer to get to the target it will have more time to drop. Slower ammunition also has less kinetic energy than a bullet of the same mass, which can be good or bad, as what makes a bullet lethal is not always just the overall energy, but how effectively it transfers that energy into the target. Faster bullets pierce better, slower heavier bullets can still do quite a bit of damage. Lastly the spring that comes in some suppressors is mainly only for handguns, as it would not be necessary in a fixed barrel weapon such as most rifles. It is not there to reduce recoil, in fact it is there to boost recoil, as its called a booster piston, booster spring, or recoil booster. It's there because on tilt barrel handguns such as a glock the barrel needs to recoil back after the bullet exits and that action unlocks the slide. If the barrel becomes heavier with the addition of a suppressor, a booster spring is needed so that the barrel can recoil and unlock, although most guns can work without one. It is not there to reduce the feel of recoil in the shooters hand, although it might do that to some degree. The video is correct about adding mass and how that effects the felt recoil. Just some more things to consider, good video overall.
1. Threaded barrels aren't necessarily longer than normal barrels, especially on rifles.
2. Recoil suppression is more to do with the baffling. Put a suppressor with no spring on a big heavy rifle and it will still significantly reduce recoil.
3. Suppressors don't increase the velocity, a longer barrel increases the velocity. Refer to point 1.
Three better gripes with the way games handle silencers:
1. Actual noise reduction, subsonic and super sonic ammo. The biggest silencer myth propagated by fiction is that throwing a can on the end of any gun will make it dead silent. Most guns, rifles in particular, fire supersonic ammunition by default, which creates a sonic boom for the duration of it's flight, and therefore cannot be suppressed past a certain point. To make a gun really silent, you need to use subsonic ammo, which obviously has a lot more drop and does a lot less damage.
2. Size. Another myth is about the size of suppressors. The size most often seen in movies and games, and even worse on high power rifles, is generally about the size you'd need to silence a subsonic 22. With a round big and fast enough to do any real damage, you'd need a bigger can to even suppress it, and for rifles you're talking much bigger.
3. Suppressors are really useful, just not for the reasons they are in games. In real life, suppressors are really good for reducing sound and recoil to manageable levels. They help you stay on target, and on rifles reduce shoulder pain, and they reduce the noise to the point where you no longer get tinnitus. Many guns that're unpleasant to shoot without a suppressor become fun and manageable with one.
It's a shame the myths are so deeply ingrained in pop culture, games and movies could have much more depth if suppressors were handled realistically. Imagine a game that let's you choose between sub and super sonic ammo and has a selection of suppressors, with heavier ones giving increased sound and recoil reduction at the cost of worse gun balance and therefore higher scope sway, as well as obviously making the gun heavier and bulkier.
Left out points like muzzle flash hiding, as I wouldn't know the first thing about military applications.
if you want that your silencer really works the rifle will have a big bullet drop. not with every handgun but rifles do. this is due to the fact that the speed of sound is at 343 m/ sec (+/- 1100km/h).
if the bullet is slower everything is fine, if not.. well the silencer is useless anyway... you know that ''BOOOM'' when a jet enters supersonic speed? its the same with bullets, it makes a loud bang if it gets faster than 343 m/ sec.
your example is a 9mm handgun, in my opinion a bad choice for explaining a supressor. the bullet are most likely slower than 343 m/ sec, there are fast 9x19mm ones on the market but the majority is below supersonic speed. so bulletdrop is not a point you are correct on that one.
but lets talk about 5.56x45 for example. 1100 m/ sec versus less than 343 m/ sec. this is a HUGE difference. the normal supersonic bullet is at least 3x faster than the subsonic bullet.
"a modern silencer does not change the velocity of the ammunition in any meaningful way." https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/05/foghorn/ask-foghorn-does-a-silencer-effect-the-velocity-of-the-bullet/
Not really, he clearly says in the video he doesn't take issue with the name because they're just NAMED silencers even though they don't silence. Silencer is still a correct term to use in reference to the device.
Silencer is the name on the patent and is also a legal term as it is the name used in the National Firearms Act of 1934. Suppressor is the more common name in gun circles as it is a more accurate description of what the device actually does (they reduce or “suppress” the sound but they don't “silence” anything).
This is pretty cringy. All three of these points are wrong. When you use a suppressor, the only way to give it that “silencer” sound is to shoot SUB SONIC rounds. Normally, when shooting a regular firearm, the round is going SUPER SONIC. This is due to the grain, or amount of gunpowder in the particular round. So; if you shoot a round with less gunpowder (which you would when using a suppressor), the range will decrease as well as the damage and recoil.
They're really not wrong. They are correct in a realistic setting. Subsonics are almost never issued, and not recommended for combat purposes, as you can reduce your muzzle energy by 90% and drastically reduce the reliability of your weapon. Just about any soldier that is issued a suppressor will be issued standard supersonic rounds.
4th thing would be that suppressor don't work in full auto. After a short while the gas build up inside the baffle chambers fills them thus any new gasses will shoot straight out the muzzle and thus there is no silencing effect.
He says they're still NAMED silencers even though everyone is aware it doesn't silence. So it he doesn't make it one of the 3 things wrong since silencer is still technically a correct term. Just like how a firefly is named that way even though it is neither on fire nor a fly.